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Originally Posted by Surok
@ m0nty
its an 86 forum and if you have seen the justification posts in the 86 vs section you will know that they are pretty damn protective of their little toyotas.
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Correct so one would expect to see a certain loyalty towards the brand. This would be true, I guess, of any brand forum you went to. Also taking a position then backing up that pov with valid arguments does not make one "protective".
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Originally Posted by Surok
and i also agree that the clio would wipe the floor with an 86 around a track. especially stock for stock.
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What do you base this statement upon? "wipe the floor" suggests to me a large difference but looking at the on paper specs the cars look quite similar. I'm sure that a set of decent tyres on the 86 would make a difference (and I appreciate that swapping tyres would make the 86 not "stock"). Also omitted from your hypothesis is driver skill and mass.