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Originally Posted by serialk11r
BROTHA! 2000MY here, red as well.
I'm jealous, in Europe you guys get a 6 speed whereas we're stuck with a stupid useless 5 speed in America. Gas mileage is great yea? It's pretty great being the lightest car on the road other than the Elise and first gen Insight, unless you Europeans have some other ultralightweight concoctions I haven't heard of.
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I had a feeling someone on this forum would appreciate my MR2 Roadster. :p
I had a 2001 model with a 5-speed. The 6 speed came in 2002. For some reason most MR2s in Norway are 2001 and early 2002. The cars with lots of engine and catalytic converter failures..
MX-5 NA is lighter. Otherwise there are some/several small FF hatcbacks that are less than a 1000kg and lighter than MR2 Roadster. But most of them have about 60-90hp..
You would not like Norway... We and Denmark have the worst car taxes in the whole Europe. Norwegian prices
BMW 114I (102hp) 47.000 USD
BMW 118I (170hp) 58.000 USD
Cooper S 58.000 USD
GT86 cost 80.000 USD
BMW M135I (320hp) 135.000 USD
M5 320.000 USD
One of the worst countries in EU to be a car enthusiast... GT86 is not a bargain here like in the US. Costs way more than a Cooper S. Okay Cooper S need some options, GT86 have em all. But still....
A 25.000 USD Mustang would probably be around 140.000 USD i Norway..
A 100.000 Tesla Model S will probably be around 120.000 USD in Norway.
10 USD for a gallon of petrol....
The difference in taxes on electric vehicles and high powered-high emmision cars are probably the highest in the world..
Spending so much time on these forums looking at your prices are depressing... On the other hand. Neighbor countries like UK and Sweden have nice pricing too (compared to Norway)... So that is also depressing...
That is why im exited about the i3.. Lol.. will be way cheaper than the GT86! :p But I doubt it will be sporty at all..
Buying a low milage 2010 BMW 116D (E87) with only 95 diesel HP are a bit tempting! It can be chipped to 180hp!! (its basically the same engine as 120D i think) Would only need a quaife LSD.
That would be a fun car for about 36.000... No fan of diesel but at that price with those specs... A bit tempting...
I tried the E87 1-series with a small engine when I owned my MR2. It felt sooo heavy at about 1350kg. And it spun 1-wheel so easily... New 1-series drives a better and is lighter.
Funny to read about americans calling the GT86 light weight and fuel efficient. Its the same weight as the typical car of that length and fuel efficiency is so much worse compared to almost everything. A F21 118I have turbo, way more torque, almost the same hp (its underrated) better fuel efficiencly, premium interior, usable back seats and only weight like 50kg+ kg more.
I have to say the MR2- actually feels very light too and not numbed down.... Most cars at 1300kg feels way more than 325kg heavier than that car in my opinion. Too bad my car MR2 was a huge money pit and I needed something reliable and practical. The two E36 BMWs I owned for 4 years before that cost me half the amount in maintenance compared to owning the MR2 for one year.... Still a fun car the MR2..
