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Old 11-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #14
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4/5 valves per cylinder will always be more efficient than 2. Take any DOHC engines and remove 2 valves, and try to keep the same Horsepower, good luck.
Depends on what you mean by "efficiency". Normally, it would be BSFC, brake specific fuel consumption.

The most efficient designs in terms of BSFC won't be the most power-efficient in terms of power/displacement, that's for sure.

Fewer valves and fewer intake tracts will generally give better BSFC, as for a given flow area/volume, you will have less of the flow near the tract walls. Reduced losses drawing the charge into the intake.

Also, more cams, chains, and valves => marginally greater frictional losses.

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You need more displacement for offsetting those drawback. As far as I know, pushrod engines are limited to 1 intake and 1 exhaust valve.
You could do a multivalve OHV engine.

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It's easy to see why DOHC engines are so popular, you get get alot of horsepower(and higher RPM) more easily out of them at the added cost of weight (Which isn't a big deal at all).
Weight is a very big deal. So is size. For a given size/weight, you can make as much or more power with an OHV V8 vs. a DOHC V8 (which would have to be of MUCH smaller displacement to be the same size/weight).

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It doesn't matter though, those pushrod GM is pumping out are nice engines, they are just not impressive as far as engineering goes
Only if you judge "engineering" by counting valves and camshafts. The engine engineering at GM is top-notch.

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There's nothing better than the other. :happy0180:
There's more than one way to skin a cat. DOHC/multivalve is required to get maximum performance out of limited displacement. If there is no displacement limit, the simpler, lighter, smaller, cheaper OHV/2vpc design of greater displacement is as good an engineering solution (superior on some fronts) to achieving the same power/performance.

To disparage the LS-series V8s because of their lack of valves and camshafts is to be too fixated on the means, rather than on the end result.

All said, I'm a big fan of diversity, and LOVE higher-revving DOHC multivalve engines as well.

But when it comes to figuring what's the best engine to get maximum power in a small, lightweight package, the large-displacement OHV V8 is very hard to beat...

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