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Originally Posted by Kamus

Yes, if by that you mean having an amateur on the Z and a pro driver on the FR-S. But then, the pro driver would probably beat the lesser driver even if he was on an Accord.

The FR-S is good enough on it's own, no need to make shit up to defend it. Not even on a small Circuit like Tsukuba would it beat it. The difference in power is simply too great. And you can't even bring the argument that the FR-S is faster in the bends. Because it's just not true if both cars are stock.

I'm sure you can think of some scenario where the FR-S could use it's weight to it's advantage, like say some "initial D" style downhill race, but if you have no evidence, why make shit up? what's the point? here's the 370z in Tsukuba:

Nissan Nismo 370Z-1:06.64

Nissan 370Z-1:06.67

Here's the 86 in Tsukuba: 1:09.77

That's actually a great time for the FR-S if you consider the power and grip deficit the car has. That said, that's just Tsukuba, a really small circuit with straights that aren't that long and only 1 high speed corner. The gap would just get larger on a higher speed circuit.

Go look up 370Z vs. BRZ gymkhana. The "gymkhana spec" (in other words "modified") 370Z barely inches out the bone stock BRZ. If the BRZ had stickier tires the win would have gone to it. Hence why I said "on the right course."