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Originally Posted by Mr.Jay
if thats the case then it wont be cheap considering the EVO and GC share very similar engines and have been developing and working together for 5+ years so I can't see Mitsu taking it lately when one of their partners goes and makes a car with similar numbers (power and weight) but RWD and at a fraction of the cost.
you didn't bring up any counter point other than you like the feel of heavy cars and that your FWD, econ engine powered automatic doesnt drive as well as a properly designed sports car. (tho the JDM ITR version is night and day compared to the base model)
Low weight equal better handeling/acceleration and Honda taught you that low weight plus a econ engine not geared for spirited driving equals no fun. Had you gotten the sporty version I think you would talk differently.
Also I use to hate hondas and thought they were no fun but drive yourself a ITR (Teggy or rsx version if you get a chance) or a swap crx/eg and you will really really enjoy power/weight
It isnt about power thats the point, your post and some of your others ones led me to believe you care about power especially since your retort includes the bold area which do nothing but compare power and talk about how the ft86 will need to keep up when really keep up in comparsion to what? If you meant drag racing then yes I agree but if you meant on a track than LOL okay compare 2 cars that arent out yet and say one if faster.
either way the GC I actually really like but it isnt what I want and I hate the tail lights (super lux lights are dope tho) plus when I 1st saw the numbers I was sooo let down since it was pretty much a Mitsubishi Eclipse (2G) without AWD (numbers are pretty much the same and they both used evo blocks)
I am however excited to see what comes from this rumour of a AWD 5.0 GC
No but they suck compared to their light weight versions where if you look the focus is not in power but weight loss and handeling.
in fact the csl e46 m3 only made 18hp more than the stock but loss 240 pounds and IMO the best BMW ever made since the e30
so while weight isnt everything it doesn count for ALOT since it pretty much makes everything better |
I'll answer the two bolded ones.
I have driven heavier cars with better handling than some -3000 lb cars. You say my focus is on horsepower? You clearly don't read all my post. My focus is mainly about
TORQUE from a 2.0L. That's why I said if it made 200hp it would be nice if it came with 180-195 tq instead of the -145 tq that generally comes with 2.0L engines. I'm not a BIG Horsepower lover. The type S version of my car is not a big difference so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. It makes 40 more hp after 5500 rpms(I daily drive so how often would I feel that) and offers slightly better brakes with a tranny that loves to grind.
Now you say the lighter version of the 911 and M3 is faster and handles better because they have less weight but what you mainly fail to realize is that those car are clearly superior in hp/tq. A GT3 has 425 hp while a base Carrera has 345 hp. The only reason it's much better is because of the combination of weight/power,
but mostly the power makes the bigger difference. For instance a base Corvette is lighter than a ZO6 but what really makes the big difference between them?