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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86
I see that you guys dont know about the 2013 GC huh? Lets just wait and see then. The GC will have 270hp/270tq with a curb weight of 3290 lbs base. If the FT is 2700 lbs for example it will need 210hp/195-200tq to keep up. And I also laugh at you guys who say the GC is only about power and nothing else. If you hate its weight then fine but I have driven cars much heavier than mines and I love them way more than my car. Low weight doesn't always equal fun and Honda taught me that.
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if thats the case then it wont be cheap considering the EVO and GC share very similar engines and have been developing and working together for 5+ years so I can't see Mitsu taking it lately when one of their partners goes and makes a car with similar numbers (power and weight) but RWD and at a fraction of the cost.
you didn't bring up any counter point other than you like the feel of heavy cars and that your FWD, econ engine powered automatic doesnt drive as well as a properly designed sports car. (tho the JDM ITR version is night and day compared to the base model)
Low weight equal better handeling/acceleration and Honda taught you that low weight plus a econ engine not geared for spirited driving equals no fun. Had you gotten the sporty version I think you would talk differently.
Also I use to hate hondas and thought they were no fun but drive yourself a ITR (Teggy or rsx version if you get a chance) or a swap crx/eg and you will really really enjoy power/weight
It isnt about power thats the point, your post and some of your others ones led me to believe you care about power especially since your retort includes the bold area which do nothing but compare power and talk about how the ft86 will need to keep up when really keep up in comparsion to what? If you meant drag racing then yes I agree but if you meant on a track than LOL okay compare 2 cars that arent out yet and say one if faster.
either way the GC I actually really like but it isnt what I want and I hate the tail lights (super lux lights are dope tho) plus when I 1st saw the numbers I was sooo let down since it was pretty much a Mitsubishi Eclipse (2G) without AWD (numbers are pretty much the same and they both used evo blocks)
I am however excited to see what comes from this rumour of a AWD 5.0 GC
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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86
So would you say that a 911 and a M3 are terrible sports cars for weighing in between 3200lbs-3600 lbs?
It's funny to me that most of the desired sports cars are over the 3k lb barrier including a Cayman S at 3,075 lbs.
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No but they suck compared to their light weight versions where if you look the focus is not in power but weight loss and handeling.
in fact the csl e46 m3 only made 18hp more than the stock but loss 240 pounds and IMO the best BMW ever made since the e30
so while weight isnt everything it doesn count for ALOT since it pretty much makes everything better