[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Driftster

Considering copper plugs run 2 bucks and iridiums run 8...There's more than 3...

You can run either. The engine will work with either. You will just replace the coppers more often.

you're missing the Toyota brand Transmission fluid, toyota brand gear oil, toyota brand motor oil

None of which Toyota makes. None of which Toyota will require. They will suggest/recommend using the Toyota re-branded fluids for profit.

Very few people, and practically zero enthusiasts, will go to the dealer to buy most of those fluids, with the possible exception of trans fluid, if it works well. Otherwise, stick with fluids that meet the standards Toyota/Subaru lists. I change fluids in my cars more often than most, but even with 6-12k trans/diff flushes, it's not overly expensive. I flush trans fluid mostly because it breaks down and shifts get too notchy. Engine oil can be extended also, just do so intelligently and get oil analysis performed on old oil until you get to a good OCI.

all things that cost 3x-4x the shelf price of standard brands..
all things that can void a warranty if found..

Mobil 1 costs ~7-8 bucks a quart now. If you honestly believe that Toyota oil will cost 21-32 bucks a quart... well not sure what to tell you. Hell even Castrol GTX is $4-5 a quart here now.

Also, none of that will void the warranty. To void a warranty claim Toyota would have to prove (not say, be able to prove) that the non-Toyota SUGGESTED oil caused the problem. Now that's possible, if for example it required a GL-5 fluid and you used a GL-4 fluid. And of course it's possible if the condition of the oil, tested, shows that the oil was used for say, 50,000 miles in the engine and was never changed, etc..

So no i don't want to go spend 200dollars on fluids and another 40 on plugs filters and the like just to do routine maintenance on a f'ing 20,000 dollar car.

Yeah, because maintenance is bad right? Why maintain a car after all, it's only 20 thousand dollars. Or 30 thousand, whatever it becomes. It's basically a Yugo, just run veg oil in it.

If this car was WORTH it maybe...but no one would spend that on a miata, or a cooper S, or any car south of the profit margin.

Huh? What decides if a car is "worth it"? The car has to be x valve before you'll spend a couple hundred a year on routine maintenance? And some Miata people are crazy with maintenance so your theory doesn't hold water anyways.

This is like the dip-sciets that feel the need to use Redline and full synthetic fluids in their Camry

Or maybe they want to run 7,500 mile OCIs and have the UOAs to back up that it works fine, but oil at half price are showing more wear materials at 3,000 miles. Damn those crazy Camry owners!

but feel free to throw more oney at crap quality 5w30 for the sake of a warranty agreement.

Again, warranty agreement doesn't apply here.