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Originally Posted by switchlanez
Exactly why it makes no business sense to throw money into R&D to cater to an even smaller niche of the very small enthusiast market.
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The enthusiast market meaning people who not only buy, but also mod their cars. Despite what people here may think, there are more people who buy a car and don't mod it compared to people who buy the same car and mod it. And yes, that includes Scion models as well, which are known for their "factory mod" offerings. Anyway, the point was that there will be MANY more people who would buy a factory turbo BRZ or FR-S than there will be who buy the car N/A and add a turbo afterwards.
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Well, that's Mazda - the company that turbo'd and flagshipped the rotary. And the Mazdaspeed turbo only added +36 hp AND it was their flagship model ANDDD the turbo came after how many generations of Miatas?
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So what? What does that have to do with anything? The fact remains that they added a turbo to a car that didn't have a turbo before and they did it without changing the stuff you claimed would have to be changed (track/width/wheelbase)
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With Toyota as the primary stakeholder, +80-100 Toyota OEM hp (the weary company that dealt with snap oversteer from their MR2 days and sticky gas pedals now) is more a matter of liability and how to engineer the chassis around that power than a simple bolt-in. MR2 Spyder owners hoped and prayed for a 2ZZ Spyder to come out. Never happened. We just did the swap ourselves. Same deal will play out with the FA20 turbo. Now +40 hp seems more feasible. But I don't even see that happening because Toyota/Subaru have other flagships/priorities (as stated in my prior post) coming down the pipeline. What a niche of a niche of enthusiasts wants =/= what those companies want. We're asking for too much, too soon.
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Snap oversteer? LOL, you're really grasping at straws now. Okay, okay, believe will be a liability if you want. Maybe they should have just put a 140-hp engine in the car because too many people are fishtailing off the road with the 200-HP engine in the car now. LOL
I still say a turbo BRZ is coming. It's just a matter of time. Maybe we won't see it for 2014, but if not, we'll see it before the end of the fist generation.