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Originally Posted by Driftster
Well judging by the buyer market.... If everyone is buying ms3s si's and gti's.... Your area is a bunch of wouldbe car people.hipsters who buy cars based on "i know a guy" stories..
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I bought an Si based on loving the handling of the car and that it's a trusty daily driver, couldn't care less of what others think.
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Originally Posted by Driftster
Except the MSRP of the S2000 wasn't much lower than dealer markups there man.. the S2000 MSRP'd for almost 40 grand, with shopping around it could be found for that...But most people didn't shop around..
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You're comparing apples to oranges and don't understand what goes into pricing a car. Price is dictated by some of the following:
1) Economies of scale. A lower-production car (S2000, Porsche) needs to be at a higher price in order to recoup the cost.
2) Scalability, extension of tech across multiple platforms. The F20/F22 engines if you noticed were only used on one car: S2000. Hence R&D costs incurred on the engine aren't recouped from other cars. Not only the Subie version, but we also don't know whether the engine/tech would be transferred to other cars.
3) Market positioning: Profit margins are in part dictated by its respective market. The general rule is that the lower in price you go, the smaller the margin, which is countered by sales volume. BMWs have a much higher profit margin than say a Scion TC per car. Honda S2000 wasn't at all an entry-level performance car; the FT86 is.
4) Build-up of the brand. Toyota may make the profit margins of the FT86 slimmer if that helps bolster Scion as a brand, which in turn can change consumer perceptions of other Scion models.
In short, you can't just look at a S2000 or Porsche and guesstimate the price tag. There are too many factors.