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Originally Posted by Driftster
you're missing things like possibility of standard HiD's, the fact that the FB20 in this car isn't a carbon copy of the FHI Fb20 it is toyota's recast of subaru's with yamaha head work...in other words the engine isn't over-free...Don't forget that toyota's recast factored in direct injection as well...
Direct injection is not free, therefore you have to implement that cost as well..
The concept had adjustable suspension, if THAT stays that's deff going to catch some extra $$$ on the sticker as well..
Yes...FUTURE wrx and FUTURE STi.
And thus far the FB25 and FB20 have no concrete sharable parts. that remains to be said...
TC shares parts with an in house company, there is little to no markup on companies that are still under the family tree. However FHI and Yamaha aren't subsidiaries of toyota's car production, meaning toyota isn't getting off the $$ hook.
This car is going to be sold to fanbois and racers...The proof is in the scion label... If it was an attempt at reinventing the 2000GT in a proper sports car form without the stigma of loud pipes big chrome rims and metal flaked paint, then it wouldn't be a scion car, simple as that. The entire brand Scion is there to cater to the "fanboi" "racer" crowd..
We justify extra cost in development because of the engine being built...then rebuilt...then out of house tuned...
We justify extra cost of development because it has been IN development for quite a few years..
And we also justify based on just how much public campaigning has gone on for this car, as that is also not free.
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The thing is all the development costs and marketing go into EVERY car. What I am getting at is:
1: Just because Toyota has finally decided to offer a sporty coupe with the proper wheels driven for a change, is no justification for it to be vastly more expensive than a similar FWD car, such as the tC. People seem willing to overlook this. Stop it. RWD is not worth an $8k premium for crying out loud.
2: Some of the fancy bits are shared with other models, (likely any fancy headwork will end up on the WRX/STI as well) and these costs that are not included in more basic cars will be spread out over several models, and given Subaru's history, over a long time.
I'm hoping with all the 'customization' talk it will be just a basic stripper, with the Scion dealers trying to gouge noobs on options.