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Old 07-30-2011, 09:02 PM   #220
SUB-FT86
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Originally Posted by Driftster View Post
Where do you come up with this stuff?


Because somehow being a roadster will deter people? Meanwhile FR86 + sunroof = closest you'll get to Roadster miata..

Except you won't WANT the sport 370z as it's a inflated MSRP for a combination of modifications that would otherwise be replaced.... The sports brakes experience fade at nearly the same rate and hawk pads on 12.6 rotors will outperform nissan pads on the 13"s, the ADVAN tires are just as competent to most owners as the potenza's both of which are consumables anyway....I've yet to meet a Nissan owner that says their syncro-rev features accounted for anything on the track on in the street.. Granted the VSC is a nice addition, it's rather low on the lock ratio, for notable improvement you'd be hard pressed NOT to add clutches to the thing which will end up costing as much if not more than a dedicated unit.

These upgraded consumables do not constitue the 3,000 price shift.

I would personally rather have the 5 speed Mx5 as the rowing of the 6 speed box is a huge let down for me in a well buttoned up car. Not just tha t, there's the weight gain over the 6th speed...And the O/D ratio's really don't show more than a 500rpm difference...At 65-70 highway speeds that's maybe a 3-4mpg diff, which isn't anything to care about in a car that only costs 30 dollars to fill.

You say it' stupid, i say it's a fantastic car...

a Mid 6 0-60 puts it nearly a second faster than the mx5 in a sprint despite it's size, it's making 210HP which is only "10" hp more than the FT is projected to make, however it's also making 223Ftlbs from 2000rpm...

The things on just as strong a engine platform, and coming stock with brembo's a LSD for sub 25k and probably a fair bit more interior room/luggage space...


I'm all for debating cost and what not, but please use some reason behind the decisions..

Don't throw a certain trim level into the mix simply to prove a point without having any reasonable grounds for inclusion...

I mean really, neglecting the 2.0T all together was unnecessary, and generally...You don't buy a roadster if you don't WANT a roadster....The Retractable hard top on the miata doesn't turn the car into a non-convertible..It's still a drop top..Buying the retractable hard top option is purely subjective as there's no solidified reason to spend that extra money outside of bling.....It increases weight, it raises center of gravity, and it doesn't increase chassis rigidity with the top up
You haven't been around long eh? Toyota benchmarked the cayman's handling. Go look it up.
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