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Originally Posted by MVJ1975
The base, cheapest Model S in the US costs twice what the FR-S does. I'm guessing the GT-86 is being hit with some sort of tax or you're getting some sort of subsidy on the Tesla.
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No VAT (25%) on electric vehcles and no insane car taxes (based on CO2, HP NOx and weight). There is no sort of subsidy, at least if don't consider no VAT a subsidy.
GT86 gets very high CO2 taxes and high HP taxes + VAT.
42% av the G86s price are taxes..
It would be much better if Toyota managed to get the rated CO2 emissions (fuel consumption) as low as possible.
BMW is very good at underrating hp and torque on their modern engines. And they seem to be good at overestimating how low the the emissions are (like most others) compared to what you would get with real life driving. That is a huge advantage in terms of taxes here.
Toyota need to learn from the germans in my opinion.
Toyota seem to maybe underrate the fuel efficiency a little, and hot have any extra power compared to the paper numbers. The opposite would be much better with the Norwegian tax system.
The 184HP engine in the Cooper S gets half the taxes compared to the 86s due to the 86s high fuel consumption (CO2). In practice the Cooper S is also more powerful due to its low down torque and since its numbers are underrated. So that engine gives more power at half the taxes (and there are a lot of taxes!)