[TheRipler]

Originally Posted by Kire

the frs is not anymore "back to basics" than the brz. both are essentially the same car. yeah, so the brz has a few more features, but so what? there are stuff in the frs that don't add to the driving experience. for example, it's got AC, cruise control, power steering, power windows and door locks, traction/stability control, useless backseats, etc. all these stuff not only do not add to the driving experience, but they also add weight. the bottom line is that the frs/brz are road cars with amenities that does not serve solely the purpose of enhancing the driving experience. it's designed not only to provide you with pleasure behind the wheels, but also to get you from point A to point B in relative comfort in a package that's relatively convenient and practical for day to day automotive needs. the whole "back to basics" and "pure driver's car" labels are nothing but marketing. the frs/brz is not a lotus elise/exige. it's a compromised car. imo, the frs lack features not because scion is trying to make the car more of a driver's car. instead, its goal is to try to keep the price tag under $25K because that is what the demographic scion is trying to attract is willing or able to pay. choosing between the frs and brz is pretty much akin to choosing between a civic DX and EX--one has slightly more features, but they are both essentially civics and at the end of the day, it all boils down to "are you willing to pay X dollars more for X amount more features?"

As long as everyone is being pedantic; there is no reason cruise control would add any weight with a DBW throttle.