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Old 07-10-2011, 07:14 AM   #288
Maxim
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Originally Posted by WingsofWar View Post
..i don't get what your saying....you say im just looking at numbers....yet you argue with my comment with...more numbers? umm sure

anywho...feeling is subjective..i know people who feel like a 96 maxima feels better than their old Miata during spirited driving..they compares apples to dog shit..and say dog shit tastes better. Some people say their 3500lbs SC300 has better spirited driving characteristics than a more nimble impreza.

All i was saying was that 3000lbs ain't that bad from a performance standpoint when you have roughly 200hp under the hood. It would be in a similar performance orientation as the VW GTI. I never said anything about feeling, nor did i even remotely refer to that direction.

And why can't someone look at a car "logically", its a car...with data, like other cars with soul..they still are just cars..

Yes I know that there is a point to what the company is trying to do with the car, and we shouldn't just focus on performance numbers, but it would be criminal to neglect the topic of ONLY talking about performance. Sometimes you NEED to leave "emotion" and "feelings" and "soul" out of the conversation and talk about it like a fucking machine.
I agree.

However, at those stats it wouldn't perform like a GTI. It's NA and would not have the torque. It may perform similarly at the drag strip, but in the real world, where traction is limited and most acceleration is done without dumping the clutch, it would be slower. The RX-8 might be doing 0-60 times in the 6's, but a better measure of acceleration is a standing start from 5-60...where it's in the mid 7 second range. With less horsepower but a bit more torque, I would expect this car to perform similarly if it was 3000lbs and 200hp.

However, I think it will be more like 2750-2850lbs, so it may actually wind up a bit quicker than an RX-8, especially if it responds nicely to intake and exhaust, which I would do immediately upon those things becoming available.

My main concern is that with a high-strung 2.0L, the car won't respond well to mods without MAJOR investment. I buy cars that I can have fun modding out.....larger displacements or forced induction just responds so much better.
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