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Old 07-10-2011, 04:46 AM   #287
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Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys View Post
You're still looking at it too "logically", from a numbers standpoint. Of course a car over 3000lbs can perform and handle beautifully. My Supra was well over 3000lbs and it handled exceptionally. That's not the point. The point is how the car 'feels' when its being pushed in a spirited manner. You feel more connected to a 2600lb car than a 3000lb car because that's just how it is; it just responds and reacts better, crisper, like an extension of yourself (Giggity).

The bottom line is that it doesn't matter if its just a track monster @3000lbs. Toyota, and Subaru, would have completely missed their mark, their design goal by making such a small car weigh that much, especially in the spirit of the car labeled as its inspiration.
..i don't get what your saying....you say im just looking at numbers....yet you argue with my comment with...more numbers? umm sure

anywho...feeling is subjective..i know people who feel like a 96 maxima feels better than their old Miata during spirited driving..they compares apples to dog shit..and say dog shit tastes better. Some people say their 3500lbs SC300 has better spirited driving characteristics than a more nimble impreza.

All i was saying was that 3000lbs ain't that bad from a performance standpoint when you have roughly 200hp under the hood. It would be in a similar performance orientation as the VW GTI. I never said anything about feeling, nor did i even remotely refer to that direction.

And why can't someone look at a car "logically", its a car...with data, like other cars with soul..they still are just cars..

Yes I know that there is a point to what the company is trying to do with the car, and we shouldn't just focus on performance numbers, but it would be criminal to neglect the topic of ONLY talking about performance. Sometimes you NEED to leave "emotion" and "feelings" and "soul" out of the conversation and talk about it like a fucking machine.
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