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Originally Posted by bigbcraig
1. This is literally the first time I've seen FR and RR to mean the front and rear set of wheels. Very confusing. That notation is sometimes acceptable in identifying individual wheels, i.e. order to bleed brakes where you're specifying a specific side and front/back, but no.
2. It's a show car. You can't judge things like the fender clearance from this to the final production. If it has the suspension the final version has (it doesn't), it's got custom larger wheels and perhaps spacers to get closer to the 'flush' look all the kids like these days.
3. On basically any car, but especially one as small and powerless at the FR-S will likely be, 18-19" rims are too big.
4. There are more than two sizes of wheels, especially when you're including offsets.
5. Track != wheel width.
6. 8" wheels can hold a lot of rubber, you don't need 9" wide wheels hardly ever. If you do really need 9" wheels, you'll be at the point that a little bit of bodywork is going to be a drop in the bucket.
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5. But I didnt say track = wheel width, I said Toyota/Subaru should design the fender (meaning fender flare outwards) so that it allows a wider track... not by wheel width but by chassis design, the vehicle max width, which is 99% of the time taken from the most furthest outward points of the Rear Fenders.
And for that IMAGE of the mule car, those wheels are the STi wheels for 2005-2009 Legacy/Liberty, occasionally used by the WRX also, from my understanding they come in 18 x 7s or 18 x 7.5s, with +50mm fix offset.
The photos does show about ~20-25mm (1 inch) under flush. Which is not to far off from the FT-86 II, if not the same....
The FT-86 IIs, tyre size were FR (front) 215/18/40 and the RR (rear) 225/18/40, and the tyres didnt look stretched or sticking out from the rims. Again, they look about ~5mm under flush both Front and Rear fenders.
The FR-S concept, from my understanding IS way off the production shape, multiple articles and people have stated that the FR-S is a "true" concept version of the FT-86... which is ironic.... because it was "shown" last....
My other concerns about the Rear fenders of the FT-86 II, is that the exhaust pipes are placed that not much room is left for the wheel/tyre to extend inwards, as you have to have clearance from the suspension struts....
Again my concerns are that the available AFTERMARKET wheels selection will be affected significantly if they limit the Rear wheels to be 7.5 to 8 inch wide...
I also dont really like to modify sheet metals.... Subaru is KNOWN for HUGE fender inner lips (~20-25mm), which requires Rolling... and I would not roll fenders on a brand new car.... Toyota is more generous, (~3-5mm fender lips (pre-rolled off the stamping process)).
So right NOW... here's hoping Toyota got their inputs for the Fender designing...
then again, Subaru hasnt as much RWD experience as Toyota, surely Toyota knows that RWD cars tend to be modified to have upto ~1 to 2 inches wider than the front wheels.