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Old 07-03-2011, 03:14 PM   #131
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Originally Posted by Maxim View Post
S2000 = huge rip off.

And yes, Toyota will have to take a small hit on this car at the beginning, until the tooling and development is paid for. Additionally, it is not all new everything. The base frame is modified from a Subie chassis, the engine is a Subie engine, the transmission was already in existence, the interior will be from the parts-bin, etc.

The simple fact remains: It is ludicrous to sell this vehicle at prices where it will get killed in performance. RX-8 redux. So, it should either be priced even lower, or it should perform on par with other similarly priced performance cars. If Toyota can't make that happen, then believe me....it will definitely be their problem.
the s2000 was not a rip off. on paper yes. behind the wheel? no. and that statement really shows your perspective. seems like you care way too much about whats on paper. on that end, you'll never "win" because there will always be a "better" car, or "better" something...

it still takes time and money to adapt the subie chassis to this car. dont trivialize the process. the same with the engine. interior? nobody can say for certain at this point, but even if there is a lot of parts sharing, it's still all new. not a literal cut and paste of an existing dash/cluster/console. the tranny nobody knows for sure yet and again it may have to be adapted.

another RX-8? maybe. maybe not. time will tell. 2 things though. the RX-8 went against cars like the 350z. rwd vs rwd. the FT? has that RWD ace in the hole... and thats a BIG ace for an enthusiast... the next thing is styling. the RX-8 was attractive, but nothing very special vs its competition. but the FT, imo, is way more stylish than its competition. maybe even against cars worth way more. all subjective i know, but i think we can all agree its a stylish car... and style is a selling point...
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