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Originally Posted by 82mm 4g63
Agreed, but the TYPE of fun wasn't really my point, it's the amount of fun I'm having for the amount of money I'm spending. It's a give and take situation, if I'm giving a car manufacturer more money, I expect them to give me more in return. I don't expect Toyota to give me the same amount of fun for $25k that Chevy's would give me for $50k. That's not realistic. If the Camaro ZL1 had a $25k sticker only a die hard Toyota fan and/or an idiot would buy an FR-S over the ZL1, because the two cars are not equal.
I could sell my 7 and Talon to bring payments down to an affordable range on a GT-R or a Z06, but I'm not going to get anywhere near a equal return (I mean fun, not monetarily) on that investment.
[Edit] On a similar note, if Toyota or Mazda release any solid information about releasing a Supra/RX before the FR-S is released you better believe I'm jumping on one. They also better not be in S2000/RX8 or even 370Z territory in terms of performance.
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Disagreed on that, at least for the RX.
The RX should remain a 370z competitor. The vette has been steadily gaining in price and will further gain on the C7.
A 3 rotor, or a 1.6L would bump horsepower up to the 300+ level even without turbos. If the RX-7/9 actually happens (I have my doubts), a return to a 2 door and sub 3000lb weight along with either the 1.6L or a turbo would have me buying that car in an instant. I love rotaries. I'd have an RX-8 but the power is so low and there's no real aftermarket for it since it sells so poorly, especially the 2009+ S2 chassis, and intake/exhaust/porting has almost no effect on power because the Renesis is already in such a high state of tune.