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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner
It's R&T, it's a widely read/viewed magazine. Average consumers will read this magazine and see a review of the car before even being able to sit in it. So yeah I really do think it counts.
I feel the reason why the Subaru got 3x the amount of votes over Scion are due to 2 things. Brand/quality perception and the turbo possibility.
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Where does the notion that Scion's are poor quality come from?
I hate Scion. That is well documented here. But I've never accused them or even heard of them being shitty quality. They're Toyotas and the tC AFAIK is still made in Japan.
For me the issue has been the image, buying and owning experience. As well as how Scion has been promoting performance that is nowhere near what they offer from the factory. Marketing vs engineering.
Also, for the turbo hopefuls, the Subaru version is due around the same time as the Scion/Toyota (SOA Blog is saying Spring next year, other sources say Summer, so figure late May early June?) but the WRX/STI are coming later. The turbo will be introduced with the WRX/STI. No way it's going to be in the FT86 at launch, especially considering how much NA promotion is out there.
Whether it gets a turbo later will depend on the hp difference between the WRX and the STI, as well as RWD transmission strength. What they would probably like is that the base NA FT86 is cheaper and a touch slower than the WRX. Then as an FT86 STI, with the WRX engine, it should be faster and a bit more expensive than the WRX, but not as fast or expensive as the WRX STI.
Even though they COULD realistically put in a full-blown STI 300+ hp motor for less money than the WRX STI, and have it be lighter, faster and handle better, doesn't mean they WILL because of product-placement/marketing politics.
Save up some $ and look into a future engine swap.