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Originally Posted by SkullWorks
electricity is not as clean as people would have you believe, remember the conservation of energy laws...alot of electricity comes from coal and petrochemicals anyway...
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I believe that myth has been debunked. The environmental problem with Hybrids and all Electric cars lies primarily on the battery technology.
The act if charging an EV from a coal-fired fired plant doesn't mean that the EV driving 40 miles puts more CO2 in the atmosphere than an IC vehicle. In fact, there's proof this is not the case, by a large margin. In fact the EV, even being charged with electricity from a coal fired plant contributes only a small fraction of the CO2 an IC vehicle does.
But here's where the "Coal-fired-plant" argument holds water: The EV vehicle has a significantly larger Carbon-Footprint just to be built (before it ever does its first mile) than a traditional IC vehicle that in order for it to offset that delta the EV would need to be charged with as clean electricity as possible (Wind/solar/hydro), otherwise it never makes up for its initial carbon detriment.
So going back to the whole point I made about why can't I have a fun electric vehicle is also heavily tied into the development and clean-resourcing of much more advanced battery options.
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Originally Posted by SkullWorks
Anyway, Ethanol doesn't come from the kitty litter box of bad peolpe and ignorant religious Zealots trying to kill us... it comes from people who work hard, and the supply can be adapted in multiple ways to the projected demand. not to mention the performance benefits. the fact that it helps the environment during the growth process (if you are concerned about the evidence free co2 is gonna ruin the world ranting of nut jobs everywhere)
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Ethanol is an of itself is not evil. Corn Ethanol on the other hand is.
If you're defending Corn Ethanol specifically and you don't own/operate a corn farm or you're not a member of the Corn Growers lobby in Washington then please enlighten us, because the problem with Corn Ethanol from an Energy, Environmental, Social, Economic and Health perspective has been so apparent for so many years any argument to the contrary ought to be really good fun to hear.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/25/op...25Rattner.html
http://archive.mises.org/7861/the-ma...ls-of-ethanol/
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...110457357.html
http://voices.yahoo.com/ethanol-corn...ol-327974.html
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