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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86
There is a huge difference between them. As soon as I step on my gas pedal in my car it goes and goes depending on how fast I want it to go. The same thing applies to brakes. A clutch does not follow the same theory and you know it. Best way to describe a clutches engagement point is by using a pie fraction circle. 5-10% of the pie is the stupid ass engagement area and the other 90% is the bullshit area. Why couldn't it have been at least 50%? What's so hard in automakers doing that?
When I was trying to drive a S2000 I tried every foot trick I could find on that light ass clutch and for the love of God I swear I couldn't find the engagement point for 5 minutes. It as if its % is about 1% somewhere in the travel. Then I drove a 350Z manual and it was easier. It felt like it was around 20% vs the S2000. Its the only manual transmission car I would drive.
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if it was 50% then it wouldn't be a 'point' it'd be an wide area...
and you are further reinforcing my point that you don't understand how a manual works.
1) Finding when the clutch engages is the first thing you should do when you drive a stick shift car that is new to you (well aside from adjusting your seat and mirrors and all that). All it takes is you letting the clutch out without any gas. Once the car starts moving a bit, you found it. Simple.
2) Every car is DIFFERENT. My Civic takes up the pedal more gradually than my BRZ. My old FC probably had the most gradual pedal take of any car I've ever driven. Shit I even drove 2 different S2K's and they had different engagement points (probably difference between AP1 and AP2 and also mileage). Each car has its own unique engagement point that you have to find.
3) you probably don't (more like definitely...) know that even if you step on the pedal a little bit you are slightly disengaging the clutch (wow sounds just like the gas and brake!), which is why people say not to rest your foot on the clutch pedal, since you'll be causing extra wear.
It NEEDS to have a range of travel, because otherwise you'd go flying everywhere. At some point you have to have the extra control to slip the clutch into gear, for example, when parking.
4) My challenge to you, is that you drive both the manual and automatic versions of the car. Want to know how I can speak as an informed person about manuals and the difference between it and the auto? I've been driving stick for almost 9 years, and I drove the automatic FR-S (which is good imo, but I wouldn't choose it over the stick).