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Old 09-22-2012, 08:29 PM   #90
jmaryt
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Originally Posted by regal View Post
I've never had an Auto last longer than 150k miles. At that point when the vehicle needs a new transmission it is basically totaled because a new slushbox will cost more than the car is worth and a rebuild is a hope and a prayer.

I have zero confidence that this 6 speed auto will last more than 100k. New model, new tranny with extra gears, for rwd with a torsen axle. Just don't have confidence in it. In ten years this new tranny will be impossible to find, finding someone who one could trust to rebuild a low production 6 speed auto will be a huge challenge.

The FRS manual is the best I have driven, better than the classic BMW/borg warner manuals. Its the sh*t.

My humble opinion is that the only time an auto is a good choice for aperformance car is for a turbo drag setup. Like a Buick Grand National, those were bullet proof autos that actually helped performance.

The reason this car has an Auto option because the 6 gears allows institutionalized atrificial higher than real life EPA ratings. Also a few folks in their 20's don't know how to drive a manual. But I think that people that age are catching on to learn how to work a clutch.
excellent point! this "slush box" IS going to be "hammered" on!..bet the ranch on this,and when it breaks,WILL be a "bear" to fix,count on this! who knows,it may take the beating and last 5 years,but when it "dumps" you will pay big time! direct drive trannies are virtually trouble free over a very long time! if you know how to drive a stick properly,the "only" wear item that could wear out over time is the "throw-out" bearing,and even then,will last at least 200,000 miles or better,if it was built right from the factory. ie: (quality part!)

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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 View Post
I love this review!! So basically it felt like a manual transmission without the POS clutches I hate so much huh? If so I am also sold on the AT hands down. The thing I can't understand about manual trannys is why they can't make the clutch easy to use? Brakes is easy to use. Gas pedal is easy to use. The steering wheel is easy to use. The gearbox is easy to use. But why the FUCK does a clutch need an "engagement point" for? How is that driver friendly I ask? If the BRZ had a clutch where you just press it and shift the car without worrying about an engagement point I would rather a manual hands down.
it is easy to use! the clutch in this car is very light and requires very little effort to actuate! i think it's great and is just right!
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