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Originally Posted by Maxim
Yeah, I know it upsets Toyota enthusiasts to hear people talk about how most of the hardware for Toyota's new performance car is really from Subaru...but....
Most of the hardware for Toyota's new performance car is really from Subaru.
Which is fine, because Toyota's business model allowed it to make stupid amounts of money and buy part of Fuji Heavy Industries, and thereby take some creative control in terms of what Subaru works on.
Really, what it all boils down to, is that anybody can make the main physical parts. There's almost no difference between the automakers on this stuff because they've been doing it for like 100 years. The devil is in the details, and Toyota performance cars FEEL the way they do because of this. I have no doubt that regardless of who built the chassis or engine, the car, in Scion form, will feel like a toyota performance car.
It'll probably be a bit buzzy, there's probably going to be good amounts of wind and tire noise, and the steering wheel will probably get the jitters over rough roads. And all of those things are fine because apart from the wind noise, the other ones can arguably help connect the driver with the car more 
Think how the boys over at Chrysler feel. Every good vehicle they make minus the Ram line of trucks.....rides on a 1 generation old Merc platform....lol |
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Knowing a bit how Toyota and Subaru development practices...
- Toyota and Subaru have their own engineering drawings for their parts. Take that for what its worth.
Meaning its pretty much co-engineered. Suppliers are even the same. Badging and other brand specific parts are produced by each company obviously.
But the body is definitely co-engineered. Thats how it works folks.
- Suspensions, well considering Subaru's STI and performance parts are outsourced, which is COMMON. Suppliers specialise in suspensions and bits, hardly any OEM manufacturers develop and manufacture their own suspensions.... they provide the requirements, the cost budget.... the suppliers design them or they recommend products from their cataloque.... tune here and there..
Suspensions are tuned by both Toyota and Subaru. Not just by Toyota or Subaru. You telling me, either company will put their name on it without them having their say on what ride performance they want?
Subaru are 4WD specialists.... Toyota's sports cars consists of 4WD and RWD.... if anything Toyota would be leading the tuning, with Subaru's input. This car is RWD after all, and the "essence" is the 2000GT, AE86 etc.
I love Subaru, I drive one and respect them highly, but you have to realise they pale in comparison to Toyota's RWD heritage.
- Funding, is both, CO-DEVELOPED.
- Chassis/Platform is modified Impreza, which has been re-designed enough to be RWD.... Toyota engineers and Subaru engineers playing around with it to produce a new platform out of the old Impreza platform.
- Again, both companies have their own drawings for these parts.