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Old 09-18-2012, 09:08 PM   #519
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Originally Posted by @Art_Mighty View Post
While this may apply to some cars which start up immediately with a CEL/SL, it does not explain cars that are driven and then experience the CEL/SL minutes/hours into the drive. My car was fine for about 10-15 minutes of driving and then started with the idle problem and then later experienced the CEL/SL at a light.

While I appreciate the mechanic's diagnosis, we need to be careful that this is another opinion of a very complex issue that the Toyota/Subaru engineers haven't yet figured out after over 3 months of documented failures.

I do believe this is both a hardware and software issue where once the CEL/SL is triggered, damage may have occured to the various components that are being replaced. That is why I don't believe a straight flash or ECU replacement will be solve everyone's problems...some cars, absolutely (especially pre delivery vehicles).
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