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Originally Posted by TRDLiquidSilver
......... fyi: pwr seats and moonroofs won't make it into the fr-s. ....
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That makes my day.
Opting for manual seats and a solid roof means they are on the righteous path to lightness. I do understand that power doors/mirrors/locks are almost mandatory these days. The motors used these days are barely heavier than cranks and actually do last a long time compared to power window setups of yore. Hopefully since they're doing power windows they actually program
auto down and up for both windows. I just don't understand why some brands refuse to add that zero-weight but super-convenient feature. Having just one window go auto-down simply reeks of cheapness and rationing-out the features for no good reason other than being cheap.
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Originally Posted by Neutral_Eyes
I'm all for manual windows/locks, radio delete, cloth door handles, no sound deadening, lightweight roof, etc. for options. Sadly, I don't any of these happening, especially with Scion being the US connection to the FT-86.
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You can't get even a street-legal Lotus stripped out that hardcore from the factory. The Porsche Boxster Spyder is a bloated pig compared to your preferences, even if they checked off some of your boxes. You're better off stripping out your own car as you see fit. Furthermore, stripping out a pig of a car to make it lighter is a waste of time compared to starting with a light car with minimal factory junk. Let's be honest, you're in the vast minority of super-mega hardcore people that aren't worrying about being comfortable or getting laid. It sounds more like you're looking for an Ariel Atom, Lotus 2-Eleven, Radical, or shifter kart, not a road car with a heavy license plate and headlights.
The marketplace for super-visceral hyper-minimalistic cars is as sparse as the car is extreme. Toyota/Subaru are building a real car you can drive on the road without assaulting your senses. Think of the majority of enthusiasts and even among there are very few highly-visceral cars. Lots of //M3's, Evo's STI's, misc. Hondas and Mazdas. The FT-86/FR-S will be about as hardcore as a stock Miata, which is plenty of sensation and feedback but
livable day-to-day.