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Originally Posted by zigzagz94
Guessing the "hot version" is the one with the giant spoiler and body kit. Didn't see an intercooler on that in any of the pics so it's probably a tuned version of the N/A FB engine.
Wasn't there a quote from one of the engineers a while back saying they could easily get 230ps out of this engine but they were tuning it for more fuel economy? The hot version is probably just tuned more for performance.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...03&postcount=2
"Subaru 2 Liter Boxer Engine's Mark Performance is 230ps, but I feel that this number is bit greedy. If we can hold the car's weight to 1200kg (2645 lbs), 180~200ps should be plenty of power"
230-250ps in a high revving NA FB would be awesome assuming the weight of 1200kg.
AFAIK they haven't completed testing of turbo FB engines and that is why the next gen STi impreza's have been delayed, right? Maybe ichitaka could provide more info on that.
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Hint it was in a video interview

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Originally Posted by cyde01
actually assuming that that sentence about the 230 hp was a quote from tada-san is quite an assumption.
i do remember reading that article now but i brushed off that 230 hp mark, because there are no quotations around that sentence. it is quite clear to me that this is more conjecture by the writer of the article that the limits of an n/a subaru boxer is 230 hp. remember too, this article was written back when the FB series wasn't announced. everyone including the automotive press was still assuming that this car would have a modified EJ motor.
so to sum it up, the above quote was by a writer (and NOT an engineer)for the car website Hobista Auto assuming that the n/a limit for an EJ20 was around 230 hp.
if they do make a hardcore n/a high power model i'd be surprised, but the cost/hp crowd probably aren't gonna be impressed.
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Hint It was not a quote from a writer.
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Originally Posted by TRDLiquidSilver
actually the things that the car doesn't need (e.g. nav or leather, park assist etc...) is not being added by t.m.m. but t.m.s. which is a distributor not manufacturing. when a land cruiser goes to south africa they could care less about park assist. t.m.m. will ask the distributor what they want and build a vehicle specific for their region based on what the distributor thinks would sell.
don't place too much blame with manufacturing its the distributors that you need to get angry with. fyi: pwr seats and moonroofs won't make it into the fr-s. they were also tinkering not having any pwr win/lks at all and making everything manual but that was quickly shot down.
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Originally Posted by bofa
...I'm glad the power windows/locks idea was shot down. But it would be cool if you could order a barebones model for the track junkies.
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Okay, but you're still a nub for being glad about it.
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Originally Posted by Dark
Say what? No power window? I'm not going to want to roll the window in 21st century car...
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Grrr?
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Originally Posted by PAImportTuner
Confirms that, I was told the idea of base having no power options was brought up and was shot down almost immediately, does not go with the Scion line and doesn't agree with 2012. I wanted the no pwr option btw.
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It doesn't count if you say it after someone confirms it.

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