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Old 09-13-2012, 05:08 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by kramerica_industries View Post
People need to remember that the twins are manufacture at a Subaru plant, so it only makes sense for Subaru to stamp their name on as many components as they can. But stamps on sheet metal don't change the fact that the project was initiated by Toyota, and in fact it took 6 months of negotiations for Subaru to be willing to co-develop a dedicated RWD platform with Toyota. I think the end product truly reflects a mindful, detailed consideration of what makes a great driver's car. I give more credit to Toyota for taking the initiative with the project, the design, advanced injection technology, and transmission.
But to give one company all the credit would, IMO, simply be misguided.
Indeed it would, especially considering the "Team 86" design team consisted of engineers/designers from all departments of both Toyota and Subaru:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...hlight=team+86

"By the time full development started, they were very cohesive with everyone, and the team worked in unison to the end to follow the goals and guidelines set in the initial concept focus.
These are the men and women who are called the TEAM 86, chosen to not be either Toyota or Subaru, but a singular entity who were simply at the task of using resources available in either, and crating something closest fitting to the goal of making the FT86 siblings."

Key developers on the "TEAM 86" project:
T. Tada - chief engineer Toyota
F. Ito - Product Planning 86 Project Subaru
A. Takada - Product Planning/Marketing Division, Toyota
T. Furukawa - Exterior Design, Toyota Design Group
K. Kido - Exterior Design/Toyota Creative Studio
T. Noda - Body/Product Management - Subaru
M.Toyama - Group Manager, Design Toyota
Y. Hayashi - Interior Design, Toyota Design Group
H. Kishi - Engine Management Systems R&D 86 Project Subaru
T. Okamoto - New Engine Development - Toyota Advanced Engine Design
M. Otani - Engine Development Toyota
K. Watanabe - Engine Development - Toyota
K. Nakamura - Product Management - Engine Group Toyota
T. Ishikawa - Manual Transmission Development Aisin AI
T. Kaino - Manual Transmission Development
H. Tomomatsu - 6 sp Automatic Development, Toyota
M. Takagi - Advanced Testing Driver - Toyota
Y. Sasaki - Chassis Development
A. Osaka - Chief Driving Test Engineer
H. Kishi - Aftermarket Product Planning Division, Sport Vehicle Management
K. Okino - Aftermarket Product Division, Toyota


Anyone who tries to give more credit to one side vs. the other is sorely misguided indeed.
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