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Old 05-18-2011, 12:09 AM   #409
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Originally Posted by enc0re View Post
Sorry, it's a trunk. Look at the green circle. The window would be framed if it were a hatch. Look at the red circle. You can see through the trunk lid gap onto the window. Not hatch.

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar View Post
What Enc0re said. There's no reason to believe that they changed it to a hatch. It's always been a coupe. And you can see for yourself in the photo, there isn't any gaps for a hatch.
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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1 View Post
Honda fit says not really

Does not have to be framed. The red circle could be part of the camo from the spoiler.

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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar View Post
Whoa, that rear trunk area has me rethinking the whole hatch idea. If it was a hatch that'd be a really snug fit. But why is the trunk lines flush with the window? Is that normal? It is a lot of rear window angle for a coupe .

Edit2: Hmm, now I've got to look at the Honda Fit hatch, as your pic didn't work, Matador.

Edit3: Need a better picture...
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I concur with Matador about the frameless hatch. The VW New Beetle has a hatch and it is not framed from the outside. If you look closely on the rear window, you see that black area enclosing the window. That could mean that black area is hiding the frame inside the hatch, and the hinge will just lie within that area. This is similar to the one found in New Beetle.

Then you may say there is no enough gap between the window and the c pillar. For that, they can achieve it simply by taping over the gaps to hide that detail. In fact, if you look at the top portion of the rear window, you see a bit of camo in actually on the window itself. And there seems to be a gap on that side as well so that they need to tape it over to hide it.

As to the red circle, it MkII the trunk line and window are not flush, and that is not a good sign for a hatch door. However, that little gap can be used to direct rain water to the side if designed properly so that is not a definitive evidence.

By now you should see that I am all for the hatch, as Allch_Chcar said that if that is a coupe, the large rear window is just a waste of space.

Just a side note. No one actually points out that the rear trunk (hatch?) door is different from the Mk II. It is actually close to the FR-S (Mk III) in turns of the design. I would see this as a mixture of Mk II and Mk III, but fundamentally this is the same car from Mk I with little changes on the chassis. No need to fuss and get angry because this is still the same car with some minor changes...

:happy0180:

Edit: actually if you look at the right side of the rear window (opposite side of the green circle), you can see a gap between the window and the chassis, and the camo tape that tapes over the sheet metal but not the window. That finding further suggests that this is a fastback rather than a trunk...

Last edited by Want.FR-S; 05-18-2011 at 12:18 AM. Reason: New finding suggests this has a hatch
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