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Originally Posted by Symbiont
I quoted what I did because it was an inflammatory statement not backed up by numbers. Misinformation is the bane of forums like these, and you're perpetuating it.
I did independent pulls at another tuning house here in the OC and saw exactly what I saw when my car was being used for the research at Injen. You have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm not running an intake at all right now, actually. I'm stock with the tune, but the intake pulls much better numbers, untuned, than any filter does. To say otherwise is a blatant lie. I'm sorry to see you doing that.
Changing the filter is purely a placebo. There hasn't been any dynos that have shown any consistent gains other than normal variance between pulls. Please do your research before spouting tripe.
Personally, I don't care what you do with your car, but don't trumpet your opinion like it's a fact. In the end, you're only hurting your credibility and providing misinformation to those who don't know better.
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While it is true that the current aftermarket intakes are not EXACTLY the same as adding a drop in filter, I clearly see ngabdala's point. Go and look at Injen/Airaid's Dyno sheets. They are very unimpressive in the sense that yes, there are gains at some points in the curve but in a lot of other places the curve even goes below stock!
I am sure those curves would change to be on the positive side with a tune. His point is, a tune would make anyone of the intakes better and that's true. He also points out the best thing to do right now is to wait and see what comes down the road which is another accurate and positive thing to say, no misinformation whatsoever. Also, please take a look at FT-86 thread on drop in filters, they saw a peak 5 HP on practically every drop in filter, that seems like consistent results.
Like you said, everyone is entitled to do whatever they want to their car, but he does make some good points.