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Originally Posted by 2forme
I'm going to. But you're missing the point completely. Injen and AIRAID sell intakes under the impression that they work without needing a tune. Neither explicitly say "You may need a tune in order for proper operation of the intake".
What about the people who are having issues with the intake, but don't want to spend 1000$ on tuning the car? The ECU cables are on backorder for at least a month. Are these people SOL?
We get it, you enjoy your intake and it actually works for you. Congrats. The people in this thread aren't so lucky. You're not exactly helping the cause by basically telling us to shut up and deal with it. I've already spent 250$ on the intake, and now I have to go and spend more money having @ Visconti fix the issue with it? Try putting the shoe on the other foot.
I live in the city, and there's no point in using this product if I can't drive around where I live. Plain and simple. |
The intakes
do seem to work fine without a tune on an otherwise stock car. The very nature of internet forums is that problems are overrepresented. If it was really widespread, people would be coming out of the woodwork. It does seem widespread that there is a problem with aftermarket intakes and off the shelf tunes...
I'm not sure why you seem so upset that an intake is causing your car to do weird things when added to an off the shelf tune which did not originally take into account that there would be a modified intake. Intakes have to exploit the stock computer to make more power. They do not run
exactly the same as the stock intake. If they presented exactly the same air and information to the car, they wouldn't sound any different or make any power anywhere in the rpm range. They have to change something. Just because something is compatible with the stock tune doesn't mean it's exactly the same as the stock part. It's like running a mild piggyback tune on top of an ecu flash.
All this said, I understand alot of things about cars but dealing with intake resonances is above my head. It sucks that you have an issue. Subarus are pretty notorious for having issues with intakes. Have you looked at the treadstone air straighter? It should be easier to add than the Cobb one. it might fit in that gap between the MAF sensor and the velocity stack. I honestly don't think straightening the air will fix this issue but it's hard telling not knowing. Thanks for paving the way though. Someone has to do it!
