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times im specifically referencing is nurburgring times... what wiki says is actually correct. i've been keeping my own tally for over 10 years now. problem with nurburgring times is sometimes the weather sucks, sometimes there is someone in your way. if you live by those times, you will also die by them. don't cry to me about different weather conditions and different track and it will be different when you yourself use "the ring" as a yardstick. these times are an accepted standard which manufacturers fight over.
the cobalt SS is a beast, but yes it is a cobalt... which is why i did not buy one. (bought a GTI instead) unless you live nearby the nurburgring, you shouldn't even be concerned with those lap times... those cars are clearly slower, but certainly more fun to drive... the FR-S is not about lap times, so I believe you will be disappointed.
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