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Originally Posted by fatoni
my point wasnt to put weight in the 0 to 60 times but that all this nurburg testing has no objective value. i drive a miata (and that the corolla rip) with nothing more than suspension mods and the stickiest tires i can afford through a canyon to work every day, i know where youre coming from. for us you are right. for upwards of 90 percent of who buys the car...
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Originally Posted by fatoni
not really. the ring is more driver dependent and too long to be consistent. at least a 0-60 time tells you something tangible and combined with the knowledge of transmission shows you how much power will be available. 0-60 happens way more often in daily driving than anything you would experience racing around nurburg. maybe well just have to agree to disagree but i feel at the end they are both just used as marketing ploys
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However you can argue that 0-60 times aren't even that objective since they are dependent on the driver and day as well (temp, location (sea level, at elevation....etc.)). Some cars can vary in their 0-60 times by 5-7% depending on who is testing it. Is that significant? I don't know.
Sure testing at the Ring is driver dependent, however most of the time don't they use professional drivers? Sure some drivers will be better than others. I will give you that. That is one reason why I wouldn't take only one time sample as gospel. A few samples would give a more accurate tale of the car.
The only point that I was trying to make (take driver out of the equation) is that the Ring gives you a better idea of how the car handles over all better than 0-60 or 1/4 mile times. At the Ring you have straights, ups and downs, turns, hard on the brakes, fast accelerating, straights...etc. It just gives a better "general idea" how how a car would be used in real life or at the track. When I drive I might merge onto the highway from 45 mph and have to get up to 65-70mph in a short distance. Then I might get stuck behind a driver doing 55-60 (hit the brakes) then have to slide over into the left lane doing 75mph. Just seems like a varied course like the Ring provides you with a little bit of everything so that the overall aspect of the car is taken into consideration.