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Originally Posted by NoHaveMSG
That is not at all what I am saying. I am saying I have faith in our current scientific theories to be able to predict properties of the universe and further the technology of humanity even though we know they are not complete. Cringe maybe, insulting to you  , and I am not applying this use to any motive. If I misuse something to apply it to an argument, call it out. I can't speak for Dadhawk on this, I may have misinterpreted his opinion. This is just how I view it. |
I suppose you can use the word faith in that context, but that is not the context Dadhawk was using when you said you agree with his use of the word faith. He was saying scientists have faith and beliefs in a similar way as people who are holding religious faith and beliefs. If your use of the word faith is a synonym for "highly likely to" or "high confidence for" like you did above like saying, "I have faith that scientists will create technology to solve global warming", you can say that, but that is not what Dadhawk was saying, from what I got from it. Dadhawk was drawing a parallel to religion or to religious thinking and to science or to scientific thinking similar to both of those articles I posted. If I am way off base then he can correct me.
The problem with people like Unplugem is that their concept of science is similar to what those articles mention. To him, it is the "cult of science". Believing what scientists say is no different than believing a person behind the pulpit, and while there is some truth to the trust involved in accepting that body/authority, the difference is vast. Anyone can independently verify the validity/veracity of what a scientist said, but no one can go back in time and be there for a religious event or verify the validity of a god/gods. For Unplugem, there is distrust in science because it is a religion or a different faith than his own, no different than his distrust in the Muslim faith if he is a Christian. To him, NASA is the head of the religion trying to peddle their faith and beliefs that he believes are lies meant to control him and take him away from his faith/truth. Because science could jeopardize his faith with "facts" and "theories", it must be satan led by Free Masons.
To say science is dependent on faith like how religions and religious people require faith, that type of faith is not the same. It isn't even close, which is why I said someone could use a vague definition of faith, but not the definition Dadhawk was using, which is closer to Unplugem, even if it wasn't to Unplugem's extremes.