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Old 05-10-2023, 01:11 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by new2subaru View Post
If you can't talk about religion and politics this is almost an impossible subject to thoroughly discuss.

Are we that weak as a species that we can't handle procreating now?
It is not about weakness.

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WTF does any of this have have to do with my comment?
I was suggesting an alternative to your comment/theory that women are weak. I was suggesting women shouldn't need to be disfigured to prove they aren't weak. It is less about weakness and more about doing something better and wiser than how we have done it. 90% of women tear tissue with 35-75% tearing tissue that involves muscle. 8 in 10 have stretch marks from pregnancy. About 10% get gestational diabetes. 1 in 25 women get preeclampsia. 30% of births are by cesarean, which means there is an even higher percentage of women having had this procedure. Besides the permeant damage and disfigurement, there are costs and complications that reduce the GDP, increase healthcare costs, increase maternal and infant mortality, increase the rates of fetal demise, etc. There are many more complications that can occur.

NEW REPORT: Pregnancy and Delivery Complications Cost the United States Billions in Health Care Expenses, Lost Productivity, and Social Support Services: When Looking at Babies Born in 2019 from Conception to Age 5, Report Found $32.3 Billion in Societal Costs

https://www.commonwealthfund.org/pre...tates-billions

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The researchers say their model likely underestimates the full financial burden of maternal morbidity to society. Similarly, it is unable to capture the human toll, which can have ongoing effects on birthing people and their family members that shape workforce participation, nutrition, schooling, and much more.
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