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Originally Posted by mycrors7
Thanks for the details and insight! I genuinely appreciate it.
I'll be straightforward and honest right away.. I don't think a pair of hubs would be possible at that pricepoint without sacrificing some quality(which from what i understand, Megan Racing, PBM AND T-Demand all have had quality/longevity issues). The goal is definitely to be cheaper than T-Demand, alongside being way more accessible.
the product we'd be working toward would have to match OEM quality at the minimum for us to even consider it. Cant have hubs that are failing after 30-40k miles... hubs should last much, much longer than that for a simple daily driven vehicle. I want to throw the hub on my car and be worry free.
A serviceable bearing is definitely on the table and would make things cheaper on the maintenance end of things.. especially for race teams who would prefer to service things as often as possible
As far as the rotor hats and re-using oem rotors.. it's physically impossible to re-use the oem rotors because a 5x100 brake hat wont fit onto a 5x114.3 hub.. or at least from the measurements ive taken, it's not possible. I'd have to double check.
If there was enough meat on the oem hubs, we'd be drilling into the OEM hubs(and rotors) and re-using them. It would have been done a long time ago.
that being said, we would be able to offer re-drilling services for any rotor that would fit(id have to do research on this subject to see if any vehicle uses a rotor with a large enough hat that we can buy for cheaper and re-drill)
The Rotors you mentioned run $100/ea at this point, which seems fairly affordable to me for any high performance rotor, but obviously we'd prefer to have a rotor option that is more readily available(such as another rotor from a different manufacturer that we can redrill, or ideally something that matches almost dead on)
Im also dipping my toes into adapting a hub from another vehicle(ex: using an STI hub) OR creating a solution to use 2015+ Legacy 4cyl rotors(same diameter as OEM brz but a tad thicker)
there's A LOT to consider here so im gathering as much information as possible and thank you again for all the info youve provided.
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Understandable. The price point is honestly depending on a lot of other factors. The $300 price point is what I'd like to pay but if it has higher quality and the price is slightly more, I would still get it. I just don't to pay as much as the wisefab kit just to get 5x114.3
There are not many people that have the PBM/Megan/T-Demand hubs to even say whether or not they have longevity issues. At the current moment, the person whom I sold the hubs to are still running it (been about a year). Not sure how many miles he actually got on them.
It's hard to say about making an oem size hub on 5x114.3 pattern. IIRC PBM hub face diameter was 136mm. OEM was 133mm iirc. It maybe still possible.
The rotors I mentioned are affordable but also costly/too much for just street usage. I bought my blank rotors for around $80 front set where as it would barely just be 1 rotor. If you made a set of hubs to have similar diameter as the PBM, you maybe able to get away with redrilling the front rotors and also shaving the inner hat by 1.5mm all around (which should make it fit the 136mm face). Of course that will leave the inner hat rotor with approx 6mm of material which I don't know if it will affect it structurally. Also, I did look into the 2015 legacy 2.5i rotor option as well back then. Not sure how well it will do as it is 4mm thicker which can cause pad drag but in 5x114.3 pattern.