11-13-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TRS
Whaaat? 30gran only for TRD parts?! I understand the idea in getting "factory tuning parts", but actually 30k?
Thats pretty much the full cost of my LS swap made in Germany (where it's mich mure expensive to this). The cars Im competing with are not 89' Porsche 944's, they are Porsche 911 992's.
Also interesting: a Gen1 was brand new, fully loaded about 32k USD, maybe 36k for some Special Editions. Thats not too far from the named US price back in the day. The Gen2, thats what I learned in the video, is at 34k USD in the US. But current price range arround here in Germany is arround 45k USD. A week ago I was talking to a guy who had an offer as high as 50k USD.
A reasonable gen1 as basis can be bought for arround 20k. Depending on what youre planing a rod nocked one can be bought for arround 12k. There is quite a bit of fun you can do to a Gen1 for a 25-30k budget....
Sure, the video is aiming the US market, I understand. But also there I think it's quiet possible to upgrade a reasonable used gen1 using the budget differnce to gen2 in a way, that it easily outperforms the factory Gen2. Though, in Europe the situation is even clearer concerning that math.
For that Last vid, sorry, I cannot believe much of that. Even If the Gen2 is ridiculous high in factory power tolerance: If the Gen1, which with added compressor is arround the same weight as a factory Gen2, is having actually 320whp, it would totally smoke the factory Gen2.
I drove against turboed gen1, SC Gen1 and factory Gen2 with my LS swapped Gen1. The Gen2 clearly was the car to be controlled the easiest.
If we are talking about a Gen1 with only a simple Vortex bolt on, making 280 flywheel hp, this slight advantage as seen in the video is plausible. But the Story that this Gen2 raced a 320whp FI Gen1 that close is just a ferry tale in my bock.
Though, the factory power of the Gen2 is quiet good and a big improvement over factory gen1, no question about that. But this beeing said, this comparison is a bit laggy in my eyes, since it's a comparison to one of the most disapointing engines in a sportscar of the last decade. With other words I would consider the FA24 simply an engine which performs as expected.
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Due to the weak swedish crown they are available for 38.9 k eur on the showroom floor over here, but please dont take ours. I need them here when i will buy one 2nd hand later  though i think residuals will be strong.
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