[WolfpackS2k]

^^^The 996 was a big leap in 911 size, however it was actually lighter than the 993 (model for model). The 997 stayed about the same since it was very similar to the 996. The 991 got significantly larger, and the 992 is another HUGE leap in size. Sickens me, but whatever not like I can afford a 911 anymore.

^Yeah, the M3/4 got expensive (relatively speaking) weight saving measures and the M2 did not. The F80 M3 is actually impressively light given how large the 3 series had gotten by that point. It was significantly lighter than the E92 M3. Sadly it was probably the last time BMW introduced a new model lighter than the previous one.

When the M2 came out (last time around) it was just over 3400 lb. When it got the mid-cycle revision (name changed to M2 Competition and it got the M3 engine) it gained 200 lb. Here we are again, and it's officially a fat ass.

Porsche 987s and 981s are brilliant. Not sure how anyone would consider them sterile if you're letting the engine wail (unless you drove a 4 banger). They are so exceedingly competent in their handling, however, that there isn't a lot of drama on public roads. The tall gearing sucks but is far from a deal breaker.