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Old 09-30-2022, 04:14 PM   #409
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Originally Posted by Kulebrero1 View Post
I just finished my first HPDE event with the XP10s front and rear on a GR86 with stock everything except wheels/tires (245/40/17 RS4s). Horrible experience. Nothing about the XP10s felt good on track. They felt mushy after 2-3 laps. Significant fading after 4-5 laps. Money wasted. I’m glad to hear they worked fine for someone else, but I expected better performance for the price.
When the XP10s were first used on the FRS/BRZ in 2012, we realized that we had superior braking technique than most and subconsciously utilized brakes accordingly in each lap. It is an excellent intermediate brake pad, however, it can be easily overwhelmed with the newer tire compounds (which is significantly stickier than tires in 2012 and earlier).

In your case, it sounds like your talent is already exceeding what's possible with the XP10. You'll also need to monitor how you engage ABS in that regard as well. In terms of price point, the Carbotech swings at a very affordable price point. Better pads are available as you go up the price range.
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