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Originally Posted by *Axel
Common sense on social media? Good luck finding that.
Because the current issue at hand necessitates an urgency to check for problems that can and have caused catastrophic engine failure. There is plenty of evidence to counter that argument, that the customer/owner caused the failure simply by inspecting for that very problem of improperly applied sealant at the factory clogging the oil pickup screen.
It is NOT the same thing. This is a semantical argument parrotted by social media sh*t stirrers that get off on the idea of gen 2 failures.
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let me break it down for you as clearly as it can possibly get with a worst case scenario.
you pull your oil pan off. clean RTV from the oil pickup. clean RTV from the mating surfaces of the oil pan and engine block. apply the "correct" amount of rtv. reinstall the oil pan. torque every bolt to spec.
you document everything with pictures and videos.
all seems good. bad luck hits and the motor ends up blowing regardless of your fix.
now let me put you in subaru's shoes.
Subaru notices your oil pan has been removed. you admit to have pulled the pan to repair a known common "issue". all good so far, no bad intentions or anything.
Subaru continues to inspect the motor and pulls the oil pan.
alas! they found more rtv in the oil pickup and subaru blames you for improper rtv application.
Now you need a video that very clearly shoes an exact 4mm bead of rtv being applied to one EXTREMELY clean oil pan, and you taking that same oil pan, mating it to an EXTREMELY clean engine block without any hiccups and torqueing every single bolt to spec with a calibrated torque wrench. then you need proof you waited 48 hours to let the sealant cure, before adding any oil to the engine.
at this point you will have to prove somehow it's 4mm around the entire pan, not just one measured area. Prove both mating surfaces were completely spotless and cleaned properly. prove you didnt have any hiccups during installing. prove the torque wrench is calibrated and is of high quality, accuracy and consistency and prove you waited 48 hours.
you can prove
most of that via a video, but at this point, subaru knows you have the ability to do this job. They dont know if you redid the job at a later date without documentation and applied a different amount of rtv.
if you do somehow manage to prove every single detail and they deny it, now you have to lawyer up, spend more time and money fighting for a new motor.
if you leave everything be and let the motor do it's thing, youre getting that new motor under warranty, cause it was never touched.
Subaru doesn't wanna work for free and give you a free motor. theyre gonna try everything and anything to get out of it. This applies to every manufacturer and every business.
if there is even a slight chance of a good case where they save $10-$15k, they will do everything they can to save that money.
the correct way to go about this is to have your local subaru dealer do the job for you. If the engine does fail, it's on them. There's proof they did open up the motor and clean it, because techs nowadays usually document things pretty well. It's A LOT easier to fight for warranty when they are the only people to have ever touched an area of the motor where warranty is needed.
now all that being said:
there is still no concrete evidence that the RTV is the main cause of issue here. It can be a contributing factor, but i genuinely dont feel its the main cause of engine failure