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Dadhawk · 07-14-2022, 08:49 AM

@ZDan I mostly agree with you except for the "coddling rich people" statement.

The manufacturers build what will sell and unfortunately base cars (as I would define it from the 60's and 70's) don't sell any longer. Even the least expensive entry level cars sold these days (at least in the US) are expected to have air conditioning, electric everything, cruise control, a head unit (vs a radio), and a minimum of 152 cup holders, not to mention all the safety gizmos either dictated by the government or the competition.

That's not "coddling to rich people" that's good business, by building what sells. As @series.trackday stated, very few people are going to pay for the performance of a sports car without some expectation of a level of luxury above a base Toyota Corolla. Well, except maybe enthusiasts that specifically seek that out, but to do that you are going to pay extra because it's going to be a bespoke, limited build vehicle.

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