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Old 06-14-2022, 08:31 AM   #786
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Originally Posted by cmiovino View Post
What do you think the actual odds are the first gen twins go to ES in the next ~2 years? Seems nuts they're still there with the gen 2 and CTR.

If not, I've heavily thought about going to STX with SSC not being an option for 2017+. It seems these cars really come alive when you can get some front camber in them in either class.

I did some quick math and you basically need to improve your times 1.22% in raw to meet the same PAX position. For a prior event I did, I had a 36.343 and I'd only need a 35.899 to get the exact same score. The 245's with much wider whees, coilovers, and header + tune I think would easily offset those.

We had an STX driver getting a 34.036 on the same course. We had SSC drivers in the mid 35's easily and good drivers in the 34's. So to get a mid-35 or even high 34's's seems completely do-able with a fixed torque dip, 245's, Yoks, and coilovers.

Thoughts? DS is just nuts for this car. The gen 2's are a full second quicker on a ~30 second course.
First, STX is fantastic. I love my car. I love autocrossing it. I spent embarassing money on exhaust and tune for not a ton of gains, but I never think about that in the car because it transforms the car.

With that said, what is the end goal? Is it overall PAX? If you are displeased with DS because you are getting thumped, is PAXing a bit better, but getting thumped in STX much different? I don't think STX trim gets you from 36.3 to a 34.0.
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