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Old 05-14-2022, 06:39 PM   #87
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Originally Posted by Dadhawk View Post
In the end though, your definition of a "driving enthusiast" is just that, your definition. Wanting a manual transmission or a light car defines a person no more a "driving enthusiast" than does wanting an EV that weighs 5,000lbs but handles like its on rails.

In the end, I think I'm with @Tcoat on this (assuming I read him right) the word "enthusiast" really only means whatever the speaker/writer wants it to mean, which in the end mean it means not much of anything except a way to add some level of exclusivity to something that doesn't really need it.

99% of the people that are enthusiastic about cars, drive them. They just drive them enthusiastically in different ways.
Again, if anything can mean enthusiast then nothing means enthusiast. The word no longer carries any meaning without explanation, which isn’t done.

Again, it isn’t my definition. It is the common definition. We can’t ignore the common usage of a word because there is also a general definition of the word. Maybe the future definition of a driving enthusiast will be a Tesla driver using AutoPilot instead of sleeping in the back seat using FSD, but right now, ask a motor journalist what a driving enthusiast is or what a driver’s car is and it will conjure a similar definition to what I defined. Watch enough content and this is patently apparent.

I feel like we are having a vocabulary lesson on the common usage of woman or man in a gender/transgender debate. Yes, woman and man can be used to describe a wide range of characteristics among people, but there is a common usage and common occurrence. If I said man, I would expect people to not be confused that I’m talking about the common usage of male and not potentially referring to a non-binary, transgender male unless clarified.

BTW, 5,000lb EVs don’t handle like they are on rails. They handle better than other 5,000lb ICEs, and their weight keeps them planted to the road like a diesel truck, so they don’t get squirly. They can be fast like a GTR is big and fast or a Veyron is big and fast, but it isn’t a pleasure to drive in the corners. It isn’t rewarding at 10/10ths, irregardless of track times.
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