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Originally Posted by Red-86
It's typically the opposite with sports cars, you often have to pay MORE for LESS, because light-weighting (whilst retaining performance) costs money thanks to the need for exotic materials and extra engineering. I'm not claiming the Z is lighter than a Mustang because of this, of course. The Z is still a physically smaller car which is why it is still lighter than the Mustang despite the older platform under the Z.
Yeah, we've heard it before 1,000 times. We KNOW it is an older platform being reused (with a few improvements). That is just the way these cars get their business case up today. Everyone is doing it, the new twins reuse their prior platform, as will the S650 Mustang, and the Z of course.
If you want new affordable sports cars to be made, this is how you get them. Developing entirely new platforms from scratch is mega expensive, especially for low volume budget sports cars. Toyota wasn't game to do it on their own for either the 86 or the Supra, hence the partnerships with Subaru and BMW. Nissan is still going it alone and so minimising costs and risks is paramount for them. So the new Z is a compromise car, as befits its price segment. You want an 400HP+ sports car that is lightweight? Go grab yourself a 718 GTS 4.0 - just be ready to open your wallet a lot further.  |
Don’t need to defend Nissan on that, I mentioned that I don’t have the business case nor I do know their strategy. If you see, I have a BRZ, so you may think that I do not have a deep pocket, and you would be right
I just jumped in because everyone seems to be defending Nissan price here as we defend the gen2 on the why not keeping gen1 tread. If the price is higher than Mustang, volumes may be affected, and it may just be fine.
And Mustang S197 is an older platform than 370z. I don’t have any problem with reusing a good GT platform, as long as the improvements addresses some of the weaknesses.
I will go back to the wait and see
Last time was when I said about that the weight would be higher than anyone was saying and people here came defending Nissan, in the end, it is as heavy as a mentioned.
I hope to be wrong here and the 400z
comes with a competitive price.