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Originally Posted by Robertw
Didn't the AP2 make less power, more torque, but lowered the redline vs the AP1? Meanwhile the 2nd gen BRZ makes significantly more power, and torque across the board.
So the discussion regarding AP1 vs AP2 and which has the better motor could be more subjective (depending on what you prefer tq or hp), meanwhile 1st gen vs 2nd gen BRZ the motor discussion regarding which is better is clearly more objective?
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AP1's usually dyno around 5-10 whp less than AP2's. Early AP1's were also lighter and considered the most raw (no DBW, no VSA, plastic rear window, bumpsteer issues, etc.) In my experience, AP2's are a bit faster than AP1's in a straight line, around 1-2 car lengths at the end of 3rd.
So I can kind of see the connection he's making. 1st gen 86 has the smaller engine, makes less power/torque, and is slower than 2nd gen. But it's also lighter and more raw overall, sort of like the AP1.
In the S2000 community, there was a rift between AP1 and AP2 owners when the AP2 came out. It kind of continues today, although mostly joking around.
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Back to the original topic, I think Subaru/Toyota really shot themselves in the foot with the 1st gens having the sound tube. After I removed mine, I was pretty shocked how refined and smooth (albeit quiet) the engine sounded. It actually felt smoother in the upper RPM's than my friend's AP2 for example. From videos, the 2nd gen cars seem to have a smoother synthetic engine note than the 1st gen's gritty sound tube so that should help.