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Old 01-18-2022, 08:51 PM   #39
Ernest72
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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo View Post
Says the person who hasn’t driven one. [emoji849]

Subaru has made strides in making their engines more refined across their lineup in the past decade. They commonly use hydraulic engine mounts now, something that used to be reserved for luxury cars only, they have done a good job at providing much better tunes for their engines as they did before. This is very apparent across the lifespan of the FA20 as well. The 2013 twins almost NEED an aftermarket tune to have an acceptable power delivery. It’s very chattery and peaky across the rev range. The 17–20 calibrations are much much better. The new WRX is a similar story. There’s no big power gains there, but the engine is a whole lot better in the way that it delivers that power.

Despite all this they are still boxer engines, so they will be loud and make weird noises that inline and V engines just do not. You can get the power delivery perfect and most refinement characteristics as well, but at idle they WILL sound like a bucket of bolts rattling around. A 100K 911 sounds exactly the same at idle.
I never said the lack of refinement was a bad thing. I realize everyone took my comment as a negative. But I actually like the rawness, I love my 04 WRX 18 year old EJ205 with 150k. She still hammers at stage 2 for the last 13 years and when I start her in single digits in the cold, she could shake loose a filling because of the Group N motor mounts and poly GS pitch mount.

And I don’t need to drive a car to know I don’t want to spend over 10k when I have a completely paid off modified car that is literally a blast to drive every time. And is my DD for a 119 mile round trip commute 3-4 days a week, getting about 33 mpg. It truly is a great thing to have two Subarus that are modified, paid-off and remarkably both have been very reliable.

And trust me I have thought about the Gen2 a lot because I currently have a bunch of cash sitting and burning in the bank, waiting for my next project. Just can’t decide if the 981 cayman S is worth it, certainly not at the current prices, so I will wait for this market to cool and continue to save money.
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