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Originally Posted by Ernest72
Two things to add,
I believe the 2nd Gen is better than my 16 BRZ, but not enough for the price differential from my paid off car, when they are essentially the same experience. Used in the future at a huge discount might be worth it.
And the fact that anyone would say a Subaru engine is refined is pretty laughable. They are raw and noisy in general, no refinement to be found.
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Originally Posted by Ernest72
-You will never know until you drive one yourself. I will eventually. -
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Says the person who hasn’t driven one. [emoji849]
Subaru has made strides in making their engines more refined across their lineup in the past decade. They commonly use hydraulic engine mounts now, something that used to be reserved for luxury cars only, they have done a good job at providing much better tunes for their engines as they did before. This is very apparent across the lifespan of the FA20 as well. The 2013 twins almost NEED an aftermarket tune to have an acceptable power delivery. It’s very chattery and peaky across the rev range. The 17–20 calibrations are much much better. The new WRX is a similar story. There’s no big power gains there, but the engine is a whole lot better in the way that it delivers that power.
Despite all this they are still boxer engines, so they will be loud and make weird noises that inline and V engines just do not. You can get the power delivery perfect and most refinement characteristics as well, but at idle they WILL sound like a bucket of bolts rattling around. A 100K 911 sounds exactly the same at idle.