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Originally Posted by RayRay88
Personally I think the knuckles are a non issue. But if you think this car is perfect for track driving out of the box because Subaru/Toyota care about how the 1% of owners that will track this car then I’m not sure you understand how a car company works. The OEMs build these cars to a price point and most of the time the safety margin they built in gets far exceeded on the track. I won’t argue the finer points of what I mentioned but these and other things are just part of the ownership experience when tracking these vehicles. They’re great cars but it’s ok to question the decisions made when Toyota and Subaru design and build things. If you ever look at endurance/race versions of even some higher end Porsches, Corvettes and Ferraris you would be hard pressed to find a lot of things they share with their road going counter parts.
We are lucky to have such a large community of aftermarket companies that question/redesign and improve these vehicles from what is offered stock and they wouldn’t exist if we just shrugged our shoulders and blindly excepted what is Subaru/Toyota puts out.
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Where are you getting that I think this car is “perfect for track driving out of the box”? That’s literally not what I said at all. I’ve been tracking my FR-S for nearly 10 years. I’m pretty well aware of the common failure points under track use. Most of those weaknesses are not uncommon. If you understand those weaknesses, it’s not that hard to build a fairly reliable track car for your typical hpde or TT use.
Subaru/Toyota are not going to screw up something as simple as an aluminum steering knuckle, especially for what is a chassis that’s entering its 10th year of production and development. If you don’t think it would be extremely embarrassing and costly to them if a car that they’re handing out NASA memberships with couldn’t survive a track day without losing a steering knuckle or some other vital part of the steering/suspension, I think you’re misunderstanding how badly the media and courts would take them to task for it.