Confirmed today that indeed the warranty started Nov 30th and is being sold as new. I was still willing to work it out, but then they blew up the deal being insane shady crazy psychotic, trying to say the numbers on Subaru.ca for financing were "wrong" "read the fine print" lol and wanted to tack an extra $100 bi-weekly to the deal

OK then, byeeeeee. Sad, was told by ALOT of people that they were shady, but holy flipping Christmas, $10K they tried to steal from me. Guess it's going to be a custom order now from the better dealership that is out of stock and 4months of impatiently being patient lol.