Quote:
Originally Posted by nikitopo
Not all evidence. Top speed in European car is very close to the old one which suggests that catalog power is not underrated.
|
Top speed tests are not easy to do, and are much more dependent on test parameters (head/tailwinds, how much runway available) than 1/4-mile trap speeds. But sure, if you have similar "top speed" test data for both done at the same venue in similar conditions, you can present it and we'll take it into account, with corresponding pinch of salt.
Meanwhile we have both the new BRZ and GR86 hitting 101mph in the 1/4 here:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-gti-compared/
Where the '17 hit 95mph here:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...ru-brz-review/
95mph is the fastest I've seen for the 1st-gen from Car and Driver. Here they hit 94mph with an '20 86:
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/
Quote:
|
They didn't have any reason to underrate top speed in Germany and no reason to limit it electronically for stability reasons. If you don't want to listen me, then listen Tcoat. He knows what he is talking about...
|
No reasons *that you know of*!
There are multiple possibilities including:
Could have "found" some more power in the tune while meeting all regs after they'd gone public with 228hp.
Might not want to step on 2.0 Supra or WRX toes.
Any number of other possible reasons.
Tcoat strictly believes "factory" numbers. When real-world test data doesn't back those up, he doesn't understand what's happening:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tcoat
Something is off someplace.
|
The new car is accelerating significantly more quickly vs. the old one than 228hp vs. 205hp suggests. Part of that is down to a more filled-in power curve, but in any case, it's acting a lot more like it has over 240hp rather than 228hp. Dyno results *seem* to back this up. And making max power at the same rpm as last-gen suggests that power should roughly scale up with displacement, or +20% rather than +11%.
In the end, it's just a simple fact that these cars are accelerating notably quicker than expected. So, good news...