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Originally Posted by Capt Spaulding
Several things.
First, I gave 86Toyo the benefit of the doubt - won't make that mistake again.
Second, Atropine is a master of the specious argument. His creations sound reasonable until you delve into them. Then you realize the articles he links to contradict the claims he's trying to make.
Third. It's not about you. It's not about me. It's about US - all of US. Get with the program. (see Point 4)
Fourth - The short Phase III trial whine is a canard. The length of those trials varies substantially and can be as short as under a year. We are beyond the one year anniversary of the beginning of the Phase III trials of the major vaccines. As my favorite Texas Governor used to say "That dog just don't hunt!" And it don't. Not no more it don't. It's just whinin.
And fifth, the FDA review panel approved the Moderna booster for a wider (but still, I think, older) population. It'll take a few days to jump the rest of the hurdles, but I'm ready. If the timing works out, my US-GP tickets might not go to waste.
Anybody else up for a good shot of booster?
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The reality...we aren't going to come to an agreement because we are arguing different points.
The vaccines aren't perfect. They are leaky, which very well can lead to worse problems.
The vaccines do not prevent transmission as much as orginally claimed. That goal post keeps moving.
Vaccinated individuals are more likely to be asymptomatic (yay...they prevent hospitalization). We agree with that? That also means asymptomatic carriers are MORE LIKELY to spread it because they are unaware they are contagious.
I am pro-vaccine if you have underlying health issues. I am anti-mandate for just about anything.
The big thing is this:
Spike, Ultramaroon etc...shouldn't GAF what I have to say, because I certainly DGAF what they have to say.
We aren't gonna change anyone's minds.